I hate to say that I'm reluctantly with Atrios on this, and I'll believe it when I see it. But as Matt Stoller notes as he cuts through the zeitgeist of "bitter" primary politics, there are much larger fish to fry.
I'd say that even in the face of a slew of pardons I expect Bush to issue as he leaves for his new ranch in Paraguay, Obama could find some enterprising young lawyer willing to write an opinion that the Justice Department could hold and indefinitely detain even pardoned war criminals for extradition to the Hague or Berlin or anywhere else that decides the monsters that ripped up our Constitution must be made examples of.
The bonus is that such a memo wouldn't be near the stretch of law and logic that has been standard operating procedure at Justice for the last 7 years.
Yeah, I'm bitter.
[Oh, and if Senator Clinton sees or raises Barack's ante on this and says she'll unleash the dogs on Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Rice, Yoo, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rove and other assorted co-conspirators, I promise to say nice things about her all day.]
UPDATE: Per Booman's request, take this link to one of the few media stories out there on the depths of depravity within the White House, and make it viral. Spread it around everywhere.
People need to see this and we need to catapult the propaganda, cuz the media won't care about the basic inhumanity of the President of the United States personally authorizing torture let alone the shredding of the Constitution until they do away with the First Amendment, and then it will be too late for them to object.
George Bush has openly admitted that he signed off on torture, along with Condi and the whole senior staff, and yet the media is abuzz with silly arguments about elitism and bitterness and bowling scores. It's just remarkable.Did I say fry?
I'd say that even in the face of a slew of pardons I expect Bush to issue as he leaves for his new ranch in Paraguay, Obama could find some enterprising young lawyer willing to write an opinion that the Justice Department could hold and indefinitely detain even pardoned war criminals for extradition to the Hague or Berlin or anywhere else that decides the monsters that ripped up our Constitution must be made examples of.
The bonus is that such a memo wouldn't be near the stretch of law and logic that has been standard operating procedure at Justice for the last 7 years.
Obama would ask his AG to "immediately review" potential of crimes in Bush White HouseNow we're talking!
Obama said that as president he would indeed ask his new Attorney General and his deputies to "immediately review the information that's already there" and determine if an inquiry is warranted -- but he also tread carefully on the issue, in line with his reputation for seeking to bridge the partisan divide. He worried that such a probe could be spun as "a partisan witch hunt." However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because "nobody is above the law."Me, I'm in the "throw 'em in the pond and see if they float" camp -- one of the reasons (if not the reason) I liked John Edwards' more pitbullish approach to dealing with the Bush Crime Family. But I'll take what I can get cuz I suspect Hillary has already made her deals and John McCain will probably keep many of the torture principles on retainer. He's already courting Condi Rice for VP (or visa-versa) and she was in on every meeting.
Yeah, I'm bitter.
[Oh, and if Senator Clinton sees or raises Barack's ante on this and says she'll unleash the dogs on Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Rice, Yoo, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rove and other assorted co-conspirators, I promise to say nice things about her all day.]
UPDATE: Per Booman's request, take this link to one of the few media stories out there on the depths of depravity within the White House, and make it viral. Spread it around everywhere.
People need to see this and we need to catapult the propaganda, cuz the media won't care about the basic inhumanity of the President of the United States personally authorizing torture let alone the shredding of the Constitution until they do away with the First Amendment, and then it will be too late for them to object.
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